{"id":131,"date":"2011-01-20T00:01:38","date_gmt":"2011-01-20T08:01:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/?p=131"},"modified":"2011-04-03T21:54:56","modified_gmt":"2011-04-04T04:54:56","slug":"hieratic-3200-bc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/20\/hieratic-3200-bc\/","title":{"rendered":"Hieratic — 3200 BC, Egypt"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Hieratic "A"<\/p><\/div>\n

Hieratic was a version of Egyptian hieroglyphics<\/a> that developed in parallel with hieroglyphics.<\/p>\n

While the question of “is it a writing system or isn’t it?” has come up several times already in these postings, hieratic is interesting because it brings up a slightly different question: “is it a distinct<\/em> writing system or isn’t it?”<\/p>\n

Hieroglyphics were used for relatively formal use, and frequently carved in stone.\u00a0 Hieratic script was written with a brush and ink on papyrus or cast-off pottery or limestone shards<\/a> for less formal texts. There is almost a one-to-one correspondence between hieroglyphic glyphs and hieratic glyphs, but they don’t look very much alike.\u00a0 They look<\/em> like different writing systems.<\/p>\n

However,\u00a0 cursive and printed Latin script don’t look very similar, either:<\/p>\n

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Cursive and printed Latin "r"s<\/p><\/div>\n

It turns out that there are a number of writing systems that have similar-but-not-quite-the-same characters.\u00a0 For example, the Chinese glyph for fire looks like a person with their arms up.\u00a0 The version of that glyph most commonly used in Japan is similar, but the angle of one of the “arms” is flipped for the version most commonly used in Japan:<\/p>\n

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Chinese and Japanese versions of "fire"<\/p><\/div>\n

Just as an English-reader would probably say that the cursive “r” and the printed “r” are the same character, Japanese and Chinese readers would probably agree that the “Chinese” and “Japanese” versions of “fire” are the same character.<\/p>\n

Now look at these.\u00a0 You might think they are from the same writing system:<\/p>\n

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Greek, Latin, and Cyrillic "A"s<\/p><\/div>\n

In fact, they are not.\u00a0 The left one I got from Greek, the middle from Latin, and the rightmost from Cyrillic.\u00a0 You might say, “ah, but they are the same basic character because they represent the same basic sound, a vowel that is pronounced something like ‘ah’.”<\/p>\n

That doesn’t work for this glyph:<\/p>\n

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Cherokee syllable "go"<\/p><\/div>\n

This character is not a vowel pronounced something like “ah”, it is a syllable<\/em> pronounced “go” from Cherokee.\u00a0 This is clearly from a different writing system than Latin (or Greek or Cyrillic).<\/p>\n

Thus, design similarity does not determine if something is a distinct writing system or not.\u00a0 Hieratic looks very different from hieroglyphics, but I think it is nonetheless not<\/em> a separate writing system.\u00a0 It’s more like a crazy-different font.<\/p>\n

Links: Wikipedia<\/a>, Ancient Scripts<\/a>, Omniglot<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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