{"id":199,"date":"2011-02-04T00:01:12","date_gmt":"2011-02-04T08:01:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/?p=199"},"modified":"2011-04-03T21:45:16","modified_gmt":"2011-04-04T04:45:16","slug":"carian-650-bc-turkey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/04\/carian-650-bc-turkey\/","title":{"rendered":"Carian &#8212; 650 BC?, Turkey"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_200\" style=\"width: 110px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/carianUnk.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-200\" class=\"size-full wp-image-200\" title=\"carianUnk\" src=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/carianUnk.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"100\" height=\"113\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-200\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Unknown Carian letter<\/p><\/div>\n<p>There are a fair number of texts in Carian in both southwestern Turkey and in Egypt, but archeologists had a devil of a time figuring out what they said.\u00a0 This was a bit odd, as the Carians used a variant of the Greek alphabet and, from what the archaeolinguists knew from non-Carian sources, the language wasn&#8217;t that unusual.\u00a0 Carian did have a bunch of additional symbols, but that wasn&#8217;t the biggest problem.<\/p>\n<p>It wasn&#8217;t until the 1980s that <a title=\"John D. Ray\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_D._Ray\">John D. Ray<\/a> finally cracked the code.\u00a0 His insight was that the Carian alphabet did not use the same pronunciation as the Greek alphabet!\u00a0 For example, a triangle was &#8220;l&#8221; and not &#8220;d&#8221; as in Greek.\u00a0 Gamma was &#8220;th&#8221; and not &#8220;g&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Once they let go of the idea that the Carian glyphs had to be pronounced like the Greek letters, it was relatively straightforward to see Carian as a close descendent of Luwian.\u00a0 The presence of inscriptions in Egypt turns out to be due to a mobile labour force: Carians served as mercenaries for Egyptian rulers.<\/p>\n<p>The Carians must have either forgotten about <a href=\"..\/2011\/01\/26\/luwian-hieroglyphics-turkey-1400bc\/\">Luwian hieroglyphics<\/a> or gotten bored with them.<\/p>\n<p>Links: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Carian_alphabet\">Wikipedia<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/ancientscripts.com\/carian.html\">Ancient Scripts<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are a fair number of texts in Carian in both southwestern Turkey and in Egypt, but archeologists had a devil of a time figuring out what they said.\u00a0 This was a bit odd, as the Carians used a variant &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/04\/carian-650-bc-turkey\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18,28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-199","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-alphabet","category-interesting"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/199","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=199"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/199\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=199"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=199"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=199"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}