{"id":232,"date":"2011-02-22T22:00:59","date_gmt":"2011-02-23T06:00:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/?p=232"},"modified":"2024-08-10T16:16:27","modified_gmt":"2024-08-10T23:16:27","slug":"meroitic-150-bc-sudan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/22\/meroitic-150-bc-sudan\/","title":{"rendered":"Meroitic &#8212; 150 BC, Sudan"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_269\" style=\"width: 110px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/meroiticSe.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-269\" class=\"size-full wp-image-269\" title=\"meroiticSe\" src=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/meroiticSe.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"100\" height=\"90\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-269\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Meroitic &#8220;se&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The two Meroitic scripts (one from the <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/03\/egyptian-hieroglyphics\/\">hieroglyphic<\/a>, one from the <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/21\/demotic-650-bc-egypt\/\">Demotic<\/a>) seem like the bastard love children of Egyptian and <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/06\/old-persian-cuneiform-600-bc\/\">Old Persian<\/a>, and Old Persian was a bit of a bastard love-child itself.<\/p>\n<p>The two scripts have a one-to-one glyph correspondence, so they work the same.\u00a0 Each is sort of an abjad, sort of an abugida, sort of a syllabary, sort of an alphabet.\u00a0 The only type it is missing is logogram, but we can&#8217;t even be sure of that because the underlying language of the scripts is poorly understood.\u00a0 (They are pretty sure about the correspondence of glyphs to pronunciation by correlating names in Meroitic script with those in other scripts.)<\/p>\n<p>Like Old Persian, consonantal glyphs have an implied vowel &#8220;a&#8221;.\u00a0 With a vowel following it, the syllable changes to use that vowel in it, sort of like an abugida &#8212; if you say that a following vowel &#8220;decorates&#8221; the consonant. However, the &#8220;e&#8221; glyph seemed to be a &#8220;killer mark&#8221;, to signify that that syllable wasn&#8217;t a syllable, just a consonant.\u00a0 (This is similar to the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Virama\">Virama<\/a> in Brahmi-derived abugidas.)\u00a0 However, it&#8217;s not even a true killer: sometimes it would also be pronounced as an &#8220;uh&#8221; (schwa) sound.\u00a0 They think.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, there are four glyphs that are never followed by another letter.\u00a0 They think that these were syllables that ended in &#8220;e&#8221; (an &#8220;eh&#8221;-sounding &#8220;e&#8221;, not a schwa-sounding &#8220;e&#8221;).\u00a0 They think.<\/p>\n<p>There are some writing systems that I am biased towards.\u00a0 I think that Cree, Cherokee, Greek, and whichever came first of Brahmi and Kharosthi were brilliant.\u00a0 Then there are some writing systems where I roll my eyes and ask, &#8220;What were you <em>thinking<\/em>???&#8221;\u00a0 Meroitic joins Old Persian, <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/20\/pahlavi-150-bc-iran\/\">Pahlavi<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/15\/aztec-1400-ad-mexico\/\">Aztec<\/a> in that category for me.\u00a0 I have less patience for Pahlavi and Meroitic because they should have known better, from the examples of Greek on one side and Brahmi on the other.<\/p>\n<p>About the only thing they did right IMHO was separate their words with either two or three vertical dots (like colons).<\/p>\n<p>Links: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Meroitic_script\">Wikipedia<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ancientscripts.com\/meroitic.html\">Ancient Scripts<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/writing\/meroitic.htm\">Omniglot<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.egyptsearch.com\/forums\/Forum8\/HTML\/001440.html\">Egyptsearch<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The two Meroitic scripts (one from the hieroglyphic, one from the Demotic) seem like the bastard love children of Egyptian and Old Persian, and Old Persian was a bit of a bastard love-child itself. 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