{"id":477,"date":"2011-05-19T21:37:14","date_gmt":"2011-05-20T04:37:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/?p=477"},"modified":"2011-05-22T23:05:03","modified_gmt":"2011-05-23T06:05:03","slug":"tamil-brahmi-400-bc-india","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/05\/19\/tamil-brahmi-400-bc-india\/","title":{"rendered":"Tamil-Brahmi &#8212; 400 BC?, India"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_478\" style=\"width: 110px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/tamilBrahmiMa.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-478\" class=\"size-full wp-image-478\" title=\"tamilBrahmiMa\" src=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/tamilBrahmiMa.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"100\" height=\"162\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-478\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Early Tamil-Brahmi &quot;ma&quot;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The Brahmi script had two major branches: a northern branch (frequently called Ashokan Brahmi, after <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ashoka_the_Great\">the king<\/a> who put up the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Edicts_of_Ashoka\">Edicts of Ashoka<\/a>) and a southern (frequenly called Tamil-Brahmi).\u00a0 So far, all the <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/13\/brahmi-400-bc-india\/\">Brahmi<\/a>-derived scripts that I have described were from the Northern branch, with the possible exception of <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/23\/oriya-1100-ad-india\/\">Oriya<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Tamil-Brahmi is a bit different from Ashokan Brahmi.\u00a0 It has characters for sounds not found in Ashokan Brahmi; it went through three different phases trying to deal with terminal consonants.<\/p>\n<p>The first attempt was alphabetic: the inherent vowel didn&#8217;t exist, and if you wanted a vowel, you needed to put a diacritic.\u00a0 The second thing they tried was to make the reader figure out if there was a vowel there or not.\u00a0 The third thing &#8212; and what they stuck with &#8212; was to use a <em>pulli<\/em>, which is just a different name for <em>virama<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>There is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.frontlineonnet.com\/fl2007\/stories\/20030411001208100.htm\">evidence<\/a> that literacy in Tamil-Brahmi was higher than Ashokan\u00a0 Brahmi.\u00a0 A strong bardic\/poetic tradition, local rule (in the local language, instead of a foreign elite&#8217;s language imposed upon them), and extensive seafaring trade from their long coastline all contributed to making literacy more common.<\/p>\n<p>Links: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tamil_Brahmi\">Wikipedia Tamil-Brahmi<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tamil_script#History\">Wikipedia Tamil history<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/ponniyinselvan.in\/articles\/2008-05-24\/tamil-brahmi-script-part-1-history-writing.html\">Ponniyin Selvan I<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/ponniyinselvan.in\/forum\/history-discussions\/tamil-brahmi-script-part-2-early-writing-and-evolution-tamil-brahmi-script\">II<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/ponniyinselvan.in\/articles\/2008-06-28\/tamil-brahmi-script-part-3.html\">III<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saigan.com\/heritage\/swaminathan\/tamilscripts\/tamilscripts.ppt\">Saigan<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Update: Ooops, I said that all the previous posts were Southern Brahmi scripts, while I meant to say Northern.\u00a0 Fixed.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Update2: Found out more about how Tamil-Brahmi handled terminal consonants.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Brahmi script had two major branches: a northern branch (frequently called Ashokan Brahmi, after the king who put up the Edicts of Ashoka) and a southern (frequenly called Tamil-Brahmi).\u00a0 So far, all the Brahmi-derived scripts that I have described &hellip; 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