{"id":547,"date":"2011-10-29T20:17:33","date_gmt":"2011-10-30T03:17:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/?p=547"},"modified":"2020-01-03T11:57:16","modified_gmt":"2020-01-03T19:57:16","slug":"old-hungarian-600-ad-hungary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/29\/old-hungarian-600-ad-hungary\/","title":{"rendered":"Old Hungarian &#8212; 600? AD, Hungary"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_558\" style=\"width: 110px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/hugarianE.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-558\" class=\"size-full wp-image-558\" title=\"hugarianE\" src=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/hugarianE.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"100\" height=\"172\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-558\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hungarian Runes &#8220;e&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Hungary, despite being solidly in Europe, has had a long history of trade with and conquest by Central Asian peoples.\u00a0 It is not entirely clear where Hungarians came from &#8212; or more specifically, where the people who brought the Hungarian language came from &#8212; but the Hungarian language has a number of Turkic loan words.<\/p>\n<p>Hungarians also appeared to be influenced by <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/11\/orkhon-700-ad-mongolia\/\">Orkhon<\/a> (&#8220;Turkic runes&#8221;).\u00a0 An ancient writing system called either &#8220;Old Hungarian&#8221;, &#8220;Hungarian Runes&#8221;, or &#8220;Hungarian <em>rovas<\/em>&#8221; (from the Hungarian word for &#8220;to carve&#8221;) appeared at some poorly-understood point, probably around 600.\u00a0 All the glyphs in <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/11\/orkhon-700-ad-mongolia\/\">Orkhon\/Old Turkic<\/a> that represent similar sounds in Hungarian are also similar in the Old Hungarian and Orkhon writing systems.\u00a0 For non-Turkic sounds, the Old Hungarian glyphs appear to be novel, or perhaps from <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/31\/greek-800-bc-greece\/\">Greek<\/a>.\u00a0 However, there are factions which contend that Old Hungarian came from Greek and others that contend that Orkhon derived from Old Hungarian.<\/p>\n<p>There are three dialects of the Hungarian Runes: two in Hungary and one in Kazakhstan.\u00a0 The existence of the Kazakh variant is another strong argument for the origin of the script to lie in Central Asia.<\/p>\n<p>This script was quite successfully stamped out in Hungary (which perhaps accounts for why the origins of the Hungarian people are somewhat unclear?) in favour of Latin, starting around 1000 AD by Christian leaders.\u00a0 (The Christian leaders associated the Old Hungarian with paganism.)\u00a0 The eradication was not perfect, however, as some remote regions continued to use runes until the mid 1800s.\u00a0 It remained popular perhaps in part because the Hungarian runes actually represent the Hungarian sounds better than <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/03\/latin-majescule-700-bc-italy\/\">Latin<\/a> script does.\u00a0 (Some people say that literacy in Hungary dropped with the coming of the Latin script.)\u00a0 Old Hungarian has enjoyed a little bit of a revival in modern times.<\/p>\n<p>Old Hungarian was written right to left, or occasionally boustrophedonically. While Old Hungarian is an alphabet, the writers would occasionally drop vowels if doing so did not make the word ambiguous.<\/p>\n<p>Old Hungarian script used three vertical dots to denotes word boundaries.<\/p>\n<p>Links: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Old_Hungarian_alphabet\">Wikipedia<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/writing\/hungarian_runes.htm\">Omniglot<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ancientscripts.com\/old_hungarian.html\">Ancient Scripts<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uponreflection.co.uk\/runes\/hungarian_runes.htm\">Upon Reflection<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/users.cwnet.com\/millenia\/alphabet.htm\">Hungarian Heritage<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.linksite.hu\/lapok\/the.origins.of.hunnish.runic.writing\/\">Origins of Hunnish Writing<\/a> claims that Turkic runes descended from Hungarian runes, <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.rovas.info\/index.php\/Main_Page\">RovasPedia<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hungary, despite being solidly in Europe, has had a long history of trade with and conquest by Central Asian peoples.\u00a0 It is not entirely clear where Hungarians came from &#8212; or more specifically, where the people who brought the Hungarian &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/29\/old-hungarian-600-ad-hungary\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18,16,14,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-547","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-alphabet","category-now-ceremonial","category-probably-first-in-its-area","category-unknown"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/547","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=547"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/547\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=547"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=547"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/glyphs.webfoot.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=547"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}